Samalie0 wrote:OK, I've refrained from feeding the trolls...but it is time to respectfully comment Thuli.
The ECF forum is about harm reduction using e-cigs. I undewrstand and agree 100% based on what few studies there are that e-cigs are less harmful than smoking cigarettes. If I was to choose for someone important in my life between cigarettes and e-cigs, I would want them using e-cigs. I even believe that most people on this forum would agree.
The thing is, and its the big @#$%ing thing that you & others here "promoting" the use of e-cigs fail to realize:
WE ARE NOT HERE FOR THE PURPOSES OF HARM REDUCTION
This forum exists solely for the purposes of helping people find their freedom from not just tobacco, but nicotine as well. Period, end of discussion. There is absolutely NO middle ground for us here in that particular topic of discussion.
As per the rules of this forum: If you are using an e-cig as a NRT substitute, we will do everything in our power to help you out, as best we can. We have a few users here that I know have successfully quit both smoking and nicotine using e-cigs, and that's perfectly fine.
But we will simply not tolerate advocation of e-cigs as "harm reduction" because that's not what we do here & its not what we're good at. Quite frankly, if you, the reader, are looking at e-cigs as a replacement for cigarettes, you are much better off at the ECF. Here's a link to them http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/ for your use. You will find that they are a community that is designed to support your continued (ab)use of nicotine with e-cigs.
Again, if you are here to get off the smokes & the nicotine...welcome. If you're not...you now have a link for a much happier community for you for that purpose.
Sammy, I do understand all that very clearly. That is exactly why I am here: To give support and advice to anyone who asks for help using e-cigarettes (or any other method) to completely quit smoking & nicotine. As I've pointed out repeatedly, if people intend to use use e-cigarettes for any other purposes, there are other sites for that, but as long as even ONE person comes to this site for help using an e-cigarette to quit smoking, I and others will continue to be here to support their quit...even if they are using something that others may use for harm reduction rather than a goal of complete abstinence, e-cigarettes can be and are used "to get off the smokes & the nicotine" so I will continue to support their quit!