Couple of dumb questions from a newbie...

Couple of dumb questions from a newbie...

Postby Konfusia » Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:58 am

I quit smoking yesterday and am still on my first e-cig (a "Cig 2-O" that I got at the local tobacco shop...came with three 18 ml filters, two pieces/screws together). Anyhoo...I'm wondering how I will know when I need a new filter...will it just keep letting puff but not taste like anything? Also, what about the white part of the e-cig (where the battery and light are contained) do I ever need to replace that? Also, I'm not sure how often anyone else uses theirs but...it seems I can go for one or two hours no problems but then find myself sucking on this thing almost constantly for 15 minutes.... I was a two pack a day smoker so I know nothing can be worse than that but, will puffing on e-cig too often hurt me just as much?

Thank you in advance and I'm really sorry if my questions are kind of absurd...I feel like such a dumbass for asking :roll:
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Re: Couple of dumb questions from a newbie...

Postby Thulium » Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:28 pm

First of all, congratulations on at least ONE day smoke-free! :)

Konfusia wrote:I quit smoking yesterday and am still on my first e-cig (a "Cig 2-O" that I got at the local tobacco shop...came with three 18 ml filters, two pieces/screws together). Anyhoo...I'm wondering how I will know when I need a new filter...will it just keep letting puff but not taste like anything?


E-cigs work by heating a liquid made of Propylene Glycol(PG) and/or Vegetable Glycerine(VG) until it causes water to condense into a visible fog like your breath on a cold day. Most food flavorings come in a base of PG or VG so it is possible to make the vapor "taste" like just about any flavor you can imagine and use as much or as little nicotine as you need to avoid smoking the real things. With most e-cigs the flavor will diminish before all the liquid has evaporated so many e-cig users (aka "vapers") will drip their choice of e-liquid directly onto the atomizer or refill the cartridges themselves to save money.

Also, what about the white part of the e-cig (where the battery and light are contained) do I ever need to replace that?


As you've already noticed, its a battery....which means it will need to be recharged and eventually replaced. Most e-cigs use Lithium Polymer batteries exactly like you'd find in a cell phone--and in fact some people have made modified e-cigs (called "mods") out of cell-phones, flashlights, and pretty much anything you can imagine. So yes it will eventually need to be replaced.

Also, I'm not sure how often anyone else uses theirs but...it seems I can go for one or two hours no problems but then find myself sucking on this thing almost constantly for 15 minutes.... I was a two pack a day smoker so I know nothing can be worse than that but, will puffing on e-cig too often hurt me just as much?


It's practically impossible for an e-cig that you don't light on fire to ever be anywhere near as dangerous as a cigarette that you do light on fire. Other than the nicotine, the liquid and flavoring is the exact same stuff used in fog machines, but at much higher quantities: A typical e-cig cartridge contains about 1/1000th the amount of liquid that a fog machine uses in just one hour, so as long as you are drinking plenty of fluids (the vapor will cause you to exhale more moisture than normal, so you need to replace it by drinking water or your mouth will go dry and your throat will get sore) there is really not much danger in using it "too much".

The pharmaceutical grade nicotine in e-cigs is not absorbed through the deep lung tissue like with smoke so it can take a bit longer and you also aren't getting any of the thousands of other chemicals and byproducts of combustion in tobacco smoke. For those reasons, many new e-cig users do find they are using it a LOT at first, but eventually you'll find a pace that is comfortable and slow down. If you still are using it more than you like, you could try using a higher nicotine strength like 2.4% or even 3.6%, but that is a matter of personal preference.

Thank you in advance and I'm really sorry if my questions are kind of absurd...I feel like such a dumbass for asking :roll:


Not at all. Those are actually very good questions that deserve better answers than I have room to even give here, but your own research will serve you well. You can usually find cheaper and better quality vaporizers by searching the 100's of online e-cig vendors. I'm not here to advertise for any of them, but if you look through some of the other e-cigarette forums and reviews on YouTube and social media sites, you should be able to find more than enough information to help you stay Smoke-Free!

Congratulations again on your decision to stop smoking! I promise you won't regret it. :D
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Re: Couple of dumb questions from a newbie...

Postby greenlover » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:28 pm

Didn't it come with directions??? I'm sure at the ECF Forum theirs instrutctions on how you're new delivery system operates.
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Postby Evelyn » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:56 pm

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Re: Couple of dumb questions from a newbie...

Postby Stephanie » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:08 pm

"Stand up for what you believe in, even if it means standing alone."


Amen Sista.....that is my Evelyn.

And OP...these questions can be best answered on the ecig forum. This forum is for support.

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Postby Evelyn » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:14 pm

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Re: Couple of dumb questions from a newbie...

Postby Thulium » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:18 pm

greenlover wrote:Didn't it come with directions??? I'm sure at the ECF Forum theirs instrutctions on how you're new delivery system operates.


No, as some people are fond of pointing out, like quitting cold turkey or chewing on toothpicks or jellybeans e-cigarettes have not been approved by the FDA as a nicotine cessation product (because e-cigs were invented to be a reduced harm recreational alternative, not a medical device) so they do not come with instructions on how to use them to quit smoking and/or nicotine....that doesn't mean that we can't support people who want to use e-cigarettes to quit smoking by offering support and advice.
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Re: Couple of dumb questions from a newbie...

Postby greenlover » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:21 pm

Well thats pretty stupid-no wonder people aren't switching over they haven't a clue how to vape their troubles away with your wonder product :roll:
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Re: Couple of dumb questions from a newbie...

Postby Thulium » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:37 pm

greenlover wrote:Well thats pretty stupid-no wonder people aren't switching over they haven't a clue how to vape their troubles away with your wonder product :roll:


It is possible to use recreational products to make healthy choices without them being medically approved for therapeutic use? Think of the electronic cigarette like a treadmill: If you included advertising telling people this wonder product would physically improve their health, you would have to first be able to prove it scientifically and include medical instructions...but going through all that trouble and increased cost to get an FDA approved medical device would make it substantially more expensive, and although perhaps it might be "better" in certain other ways than a typical consumer product treadmill that just lets people get their "walking" fix without all the hazards and byproducts of combustion engine and traffic, most manufacturers are going to just release it as a consumer product that some people use for personal exercise... Likewise, e-cigarettes can be used by people who just want to be able to get their "nicotine fix" without all the hazards and byproducts of combustion and have no interest in completely quitting (this is called Tobacco Harm Reduction), OR they can be used by someone who has a plan to completely quit smoking. Just because it can be used one way doesn't mean it cannot be used in the other. This site, ostensibly, is for pepole who have a plan to completely quit smoking, and presumably since this is the e-cigarette section, we are here to SUPPORT people who are intending to quit smoking... If you aren't going to be supportive of the OP's questions about how to use an e-cigarette to quit smoking, THAT is called trolling.
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Postby Evelyn » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:38 pm

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Re: Couple of dumb questions from a newbie...

Postby greenlover » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:47 pm

Wow the e cig people think i'm a troll-how nice,well I have some special names for them to :roll:
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Re: Couple of dumb questions from a newbie...

Postby Thulium » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:48 pm

Evelyn wrote:
Thulium wrote:
greenlover wrote:Didn't it come with directions??? I'm sure at the ECF Forum theirs instrutctions on how you're new delivery system operates.


No, as some people are fond of pointing out, like quitting cold turkey or chewing on toothpicks or jellybeans e-cigarettes have not been approved by the FDA as a nicotine cessation product (because e-cigs were invented to be a reduced harm recreational alternative, not a medical device) so they do not come with instructions on how to use them to quit smoking and/or nicotine....that doesn't mean that we can't support people who want to use e-cigarettes to quit smoking by offering support and advice.



I mean really....Jokers! Junkies making excuses for their drug........and this is allowed on a quit smoking bb....I mean really...what has the world of greed come too?????????????????

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You seem scared of an outbreak of smokeless e-cigarette use. What are you afraid of? Millions of people NOT smoking?!? Widespread improvements in health among nicotine addicts? Billions of dollars NOT spent on drugs to treat diseases caused by smoking?!? Hundreds of entrepeneurs, inventors and small businesses springing up to support a new industry of smoke-free recreational products that aren't restricted by the FDA to just Big Tobacco and/or Big Pharma's monopoly?!? What, indeed, has the world of greed(y people who profit from keeping people in the smoke>quit>relapse cycle) come to? :roll:
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Re: Couple of dumb questions from a newbie...

Postby greenlover » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:55 pm

:twisted: For sure thats my big game plan hoping if I say all sorts of crap about e cigs that some poor person looking for an OUT & sees the E cig as a way around quitting will thank me for convincing them that quitting is better then vaping-you so don't get it. Plus if you product is such a "godsend" then why aren't every poor smoker I see when asked why don't they vape instead of smoking just look at me like why switch delivery systems-I guess they figure its easier to remain a smoker to switch to that healthier form of smoking or so you say using e cigs. Why not run big ads to promote your choice-to me preaching about e cigs on a quit smoking site is pretty stupid-why ask people who have found freedom return to a lifestealing habit-seems kinda stupid to me. :twisted:
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Postby Evelyn » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:14 pm

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Re: Couple of dumb questions from a newbie...

Postby Thulium » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:22 pm

greenlover wrote::twisted: For sure thats my big game plan hoping if I say all sorts of crap about e cigs that some poor person looking for an OUT & sees the E cig as a way around quitting will thank me for convincing them that quitting is better then vaping-you so don't get it.


Good luck with that.

Plus if you product is such a "godsend" then why aren't every poor smoker I see when asked why don't they vape instead of smoking just look at me like why switch delivery systems


Why don't more smokers switch to vaping? It's a pretty new product and there's a lot of people spreading misinformation about it.

-I guess they figure its easier to remain a smoker to switch to that healthier form of smoking or so you say using e cigs.


Huh? Do you still not understand the difference between smoke and vapor? Smoke is the product of combustion--its what happens when you light tobacco on fire and besides a small amount of nicotine, it includes poisonous carbon monoxide, carcinogenic partially burnt particulates of tobacco and carcinogens called "tar" and countless thousands of other chemicals--not all of which have even been identified. Vapor from an electronic cigarette contains the germicidal air sanitizer propylene glycol and/or vegetable glycerine, natural and artificial flavorings/scents, a bit of water, and optionally a small percentage (generally less than 4%) of nicotine. There is no fire, so there is no smoke. Just because it LOOKS like smoking to exhale on a cold day, doesn't mean that you can get cancer from winter weather. :lol:

Why not run big ads to promote your choice


Ads are used to promote a commercial product. My choice is not a commercial product and I have no financial interests in e-cigarettes or any other smoke-free alternatives. My interest is in reducing the deaths and diseases caused by smoking by helping people to quit smoking by whater method works for them as an individual and I am here to support people who intend to quit smoking with help from an e-cigarette. If you are here for any other reason, you are trolling.

-to me preaching about e cigs on a quit smoking site is pretty stupid-why ask people who have found freedom return to a lifestealing habit-seems kinda stupid to me. :twisted:


Well, if you have some reason to believe that e-cigarettes can kill someone, could you please explain how? What do you think are the health risks of e-cigarette use?
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