I won't speak for Katie, but I'll say my thoughts...
Nicotine is harmful. How harmful nicotine alone is is obviously at the heart of the debate, but I like to think that we all realize that nicotine isn't harmless.
So using nicotine to get off nicotine...yep, we all get it, it works for some people, and a short term harm from nicotine alone is better than the real harm of smoking. Yes, I agree that an e-cig or long term use of nicotine is harm-reduction over cigarettes, but that is not the purpose of this forum...we are here for nicotine cessation as well as smoking cessation. Its in the policy here
So anyway, back to the topic...nicotine itself is harmful, and I think we can all agree it is addictive. Yes, I'll concede that cigarettes have additives that increase dependance, but lets all agree that nicotine alone is addictive. The problem, for this site, is we will demand in the end that you break the nicotine addiction entirely.
And when that day comes...and the long-term nicotine user (and still addict) goes cold off the nicotine, it can lead to nicotine relapse, and even smoking relapse. We have seen it here time and time again when NRT users eliminate NRT - it is the most fragile time of a NRT-user's quit, and we've seen many a quit lost to it. THAT is the fear here...or at least my fear when discussing things like "Nicotine good?"
If your intention is to stay on nicotine forever...then harm reduction or not, this really isn't the home for you. Honestly...I wish you the best, I hope you stay cigarette free for the rest of your life...but that doesn't share the purpose of this forum. The ECF shares that purpose, and you will find yourself MUCH happier there.
I hope that helps you see this side of the fence...I'm fine with e-cigs, just not e-cigs (with continued nicotine use) as a way of life.
Hi Samalie0, and thank you. I don't know if you read my original post - but I did go cold turkey for 10 days - with this forums help. (cigarette free since 4/17) During my physical crisis (Celiacs) the logical side of my brain gave me two choices - go back to a 37 year habit of smoking cigarettes, or trying the e-cig. Since I'm determined to quit smoking tobacco, I chose the e-cig. Now that I know why I was having so much pain (not the "nicodemon's" withdrawal tricks) I have been reducing the amount of nicotine I'm using. (similar to the gum or patch) When I first started, I was on 24mgs, then 18mgs, and now I'm down to 12mgs. With the help of Thulium, who's shown me how to safely (gluten free) reduce the amount down to 8, then 4, and then completely free. Yay!
As I've mentioned earlier .... I started my quit journey here. When I physically couldn't do it any longer, I chose the e-cig, finding information about the PV on the other forum. But since they aren't a quit smoking site, I returned here - to my original home, to finish my journey. But apparently, all I've done is ...... well, we won't go there.....
Thank you again for your encouragement. I'm getting there!