What do doctors think of electronic cigarettes?

[Deadcat2]

And why my doctor said otherwise
Dr. Mintz

Here is a little bit more from your doctor Mintz...

Yes, e-cigs don't have the carcinogens that tobacco cigarettes contain, and it is most likely that they pose no more dangers than those we already know to be attributed to nicotine. However, without regulation and research, I can not recommend these to patients. My opposition is more with the regulators than the electronic cigarettes.

[Debbie3163]

I talked to my Dr. my brothers kidney Dr and his heart Dr and asked them what are their recommedations on the ecig,all 3 said there is still too much unknown for them to recommend them,most of the research out there is from the ecig people themselves,there is simply not enough knowledge about them to assume there is little or no risk associated with its prolonged use.They also said there are a lot of alternative drugs and treatments for smoking cessation that have passed scientific and clinical trials,if one of their patients are using a ecig they advise them to use only at their own risk and only a temporary basis. That's all i need to know.

[Evelyn]

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[secondchance]

Deadcat2....i'm lov'in it My friends cardiologist also agreed with the e-cig! Nice post

[cigarbabe]

:D Deadcat2....i'm lov'in it My friends cardiologist also agreed with the e-cig! Nice post

My doctors also thought it was a good idea too.
I'm glad my doctors and cardiologist are keeping up with continuing education to keep them informed and up to date.
C.B.

[Debbie3163]

:D Deadcat2....i'm lov'in it My friends cardiologist also agreed with the e-cig! Nice post

My doctors also thought it was a good idea too.
I'm glad my doctors and cardiologist are keeping up with continuing education to keep them informed and up to date.
C.B.

Yeah okay!

[avian3]

:D Deadcat2....i'm lov'in it My friends cardiologist also agreed with the e-cig! Nice post

My doctors also thought it was a good idea too.
I'm glad my doctors and cardiologist are keeping up with continuing education to keep them informed and up to date.
C.B.

Time to get a new doctor.

[cigarbabe]

:D Deadcat2....i'm lov'in it My friends cardiologist also agreed with the e-cig! Nice post

My doctors also thought it was a good idea too.
I'm glad my doctors and cardiologist are keeping up with continuing education to keep them informed and up to date.
C.B.

Yeah okay!

:D Deadcat2....i'm lov'in it My friends cardiologist also agreed with the e-cig! Nice post

My doctors also thought it was a good idea too.
I'm glad my doctors and cardiologist are keeping up with continuing education to keep them informed and up to date.
C.B.

Time to get a new doctor.

qsmbadmin wrote:The official position of this message board is as follows:

This policy does NOT give members the right to lambast, condescend, ridicule or otherwise denigrate electronic cigarette users or anyone else who is continuing to use nicotine in any form.

Further, I wish to make it clear that rude, inflammatory behavior by anyone, no matter how long you have been here, will be met with warnings and/or removal from the board.

C.B.

[SimplySimon]

Some ideas which would help keep this forum helpful:

If you're going to reference studies, whether of mice, humans, or others, just post a link. It'll make it easier to evaluate.

If your doctor, or anybody else, makes medical claims or statements of risks relevant to the sub-forum, try to post as much information as you can. (Growing an extra arm isn't a known side effect of any nicotine produce that I know of. If it is, I really want to know. It might inspire me to take up some form of nicotine again. I've always wanted to be able to type while I play the guitar.)


Trying to keep it real,
SS

[Thulium]

Some ideas which would help keep this forum helpful:

If you're going to reference studies, whether of mice, humans, or others, just post a link. It'll make it easier to evaluate.

If your doctor, or anybody else, makes medical claims or statements of risks relevant to the sub-forum, try to post as much information as you can. (Growing an extra arm isn't a known side effect of any nicotine produce that I know of. If it is, I really want to know. It might inspire me to take up some form of nicotine again. I've always wanted to be able to type while I play the guitar.)


Trying to keep it real,
SS

Good call, SS. This one was just published: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... x/abstract

[renstyle]

Good call, SS. This one was just published: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... x/abstract

Love the name of the conference: the European Conference on Tobacco or Health

emphasis is mine.

[renstyle]

Not quite the "average", but the 'median'. This means that half of those polled used less than three months, and roughly half used them MORE than three months.

So all of the ecig users chronically puffing nicotine AFTER three months comprise at least 50% of the polling pool.

it is a bit of a stretch to assume those that continue using their ecig after 3 months are irrevocably attached to their ecigs. I still use mine, but with zero nicotine. Others may find this odd, but I'm quite content with that.

I am not one that espouses ecig+nic use eternally, but I am of the mind that individuals should be able to make this decision for themselves. I am confident that after the smoke is removed from their lives this decision will be much easier to make.

Eventually is a wonderful adverb!

The junkie thinking you are referring to.... I am also fine with that, as I personally am a caffiene junkie, and certainly do have junkie thinking with regard to my coffee. Again, we agree to disagree here.

I see no point in placing absolutes on this process, as it serves to shut out the individuals that are really stuck on smoking, and can see no other way out.

I have to admit, I find your energy most refreshing. Keep fighting the good fight, and together we'll get more folks to stop smoking!

[cigarbabe]

From what I read of the link, the author claims that the "average" e-cig user uses them for about 3 months.

So all of you that are still chronically puffing the substance containing nicotine AFTER that point need to be accepting the fact that if you cannot get off of the electronic cigarette---it is just another form of administering the drug that kept you smoking in the first place and NO TIME LIKE THE PRESENT to get off of the poison asap. And totally in line with these forum rules----meaning not using puffing the nicotine in the form of "e-smoking" as a way of life.....

Make a quit plan---no time like the present and do not delay---delaying would be embracing "junkie thinking" and the "can't do" attitude, which all who have successfully quit the puffing of the nicotine KNOW is entirely "doable" one day at a time, it gets easier and easier and better and better....

katiem

I honestly don't know how you extrapolated that from the study.
I participated in that study and nothing you have concluded was in there.
If people want to stop their ingestion of nicotine or stop using their pvs it is up to them not anyone else.
Simply because you choose not to accept any information besides Carr, Polito et al use of terms and thinking does not mean it has any relevance for everyone else especially if they haven't read those "books".
Which is fine we don't need to agree on anything except people should stop smoking.
Period.
IE you can't tell anyone what they need to do unless it is you.
Your way is only relevant to you and others like you not all people.
There can be more than one way to do things.
That term "junkie thinking" may be relevant for you but it does not aptly describe any part of what I do.
C.B.

[Thulium]

Katie, "the median duration of electronic cigarette use was 3 months" means that the average amount of time the participants in this study had used e-cigarettes was 3 months. There is no mention if or when they intended to stop using e-cigarettes. Ending nicotine consumption is not the entirety of smoking. Many people use nicotine without smoking and many people smoke without nicotine. The hazards and byproducts of combustion are the cause of at least 99% of the negative effects of smoking. Without the MAOI's and other habit reinforcing chemicals in smoke, nicotine is not any more dangerous or addictive than caffeine.

katiem, have you removed all ketchup, tomatoes, eggplant, and peppers from your diet; or are you also "in the throes of junkie thinking" and making excuses to continue using products that contain nicotine??

[Electricman]

qsmbadmin wrote:

Electronic cigarette users are welcome here with the understanding that the ultimate goal for or those users is the eventual and complete cessation of nicotine use.

This message board is not the place to advocate electronic cigarettes as a way of life.

Thank you.

We have been through all the junkie excuses potatoes, tomatoes, caffeine on and on nicotine is a dangerous and extremely addictive drug. If you want to continue to use this drug this forum is not for you....