What do doctors think of electronic cigarettes?

Re: What do doctors think of electronic cigarettes?

Postby Electricman » Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:35 pm

Stephanie wrote:That reminds me...where is the nicotine in Ecigs or any other NRT derived from :?: , or is it synthetic :?:

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Tobacco plants grown in the United States, China, Brazil, India, Argentina, Indonesia, Malawi, and Zimbabwe. Many of these countries use cheap child labor to sustain their farms, exposing these children to “green tobacco sickness,” a form of nicotine poisoning. This is caused by the handling of wet tobacco leaves. As the nicotine absorbs through the skin it causes the farmers to be poisoned at a rate equivalent to smoking 50 cigarettes. A person suffering from green tobacco sickness can suffer dizziness, vomiting and nausea and in children it can permanently alter brain function.

Many countries are processing tobacco to get nicotine in its refined form for use in pharmaceutical products and the new e-cigarettes. The workers who process the nicotine must wear chemical barrier safety equipment because refined nicotine is a deadly poison able to kill an adult if enough of the toxin contacts the skin. For this and other reasons countries like the United States are looking into stricter controls of products that contain refined nicotine, such as e-cigarette cartridges.

The process is something like this
Water alone will do the job. Just at tobacco to hot water, HEAT it to boiling, strain off solids, and then filter the stuff stuff.

And don't eat it. Remember it is poison.
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Nicotine, the addictive substance in tobacco products, is the most common cause of chemical dependency in the U.S., according to the CDC.

Nicotine is an extremely addictive dangerous drug . Tobacco, ecf/casaa(Consumer Addicts Should Advocate Addiction) are, in effect, drug-pushers. Their income depends on keeping millions of Americans hooked.
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Re: What do doctors think of electronic cigarettes?

Postby cigarbabe » Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:41 am

Same old, same old.
It's great to see new things happening here!
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Re: What do doctors think of electronic cigarettes?

Postby Thulium » Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:50 pm

Preliminary results from a clinical trial of e-cigarettes have been published in peer reviewed BioMedCentral here: http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pd ... 11-786.pdf

What is especially interesting is the fact that this study specifically looked at smokers who DID NOT WANT to quit and they were offered NO support, yet they had higher success rates than motivated quitters attempting to use NRTs with a structured support system.
Is there any reason whatsoever to believe that smoke-free products that may contain an addictive psychostimulant but have not been approved by the FDA as a smoking cessation aid pose a greater public health risk than sugar-free products that may contain an addictive psychostimulant but have not been approved by the FDA as a weight loss aid?
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Re: What do doctors think of electronic cigarettes?

Postby greenlover » Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:20 am

Thulium wrote:Preliminary results from a clinical trial of e-cigarettes have been published in peer reviewed BioMedCentral here: http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pd ... 11-786.pdf

What is especially interesting is the fact that this study specifically looked at smokers who DID NOT WANT to quit and they were offered NO support, yet they had higher success rates than motivated quitters attempting to use NRTs with a structured support system.


Well that makes sense to me-you're still doing alot of things as a cig smoker did-hand to mouth with something 3 inches long,inhaling & most likely still getting your nic fix so yeah no wonder people are quitting they probably hate people staring at them & wondering why vap when you can just smoke???
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Re: What do doctors think of electronic cigarettes?

Postby Thulium » Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:39 pm

greenlover wrote:Well that makes sense to me-you're still doing alot of things as a cig smoker did-hand to mouth with something 3 inches long,inhaling & most likely still getting your nic fix so yeah no wonder people are quitting they probably hate people staring at them & wondering why vap when you can just smoke???


Better question: Why smoke when you can just vape and avoid all of the hazards and byproducts of lighting tobacco on fire and inhaling smoke 100's of times a day??? Besides, don't you know that the surgeon general has determined that cigarette smoking is hazardous to your health? After just a few days of NOT smoking with an e-cig, my senses of taste and smell began to heal and the taste of burning leaves lost its former appeal and I haven't even WANTED to smoke a cigarette for over 2 years, but I did bum one last cigarette about 22.5 months ago just to have a "quit date" I could remember. Smoke free since 1/1/10. 8)
Is there any reason whatsoever to believe that smoke-free products that may contain an addictive psychostimulant but have not been approved by the FDA as a smoking cessation aid pose a greater public health risk than sugar-free products that may contain an addictive psychostimulant but have not been approved by the FDA as a weight loss aid?
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Re: What do doctors think of electronic cigarettes?

Postby MariaUzuk » Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:48 am

My doc says that I was too nervous, when use e-cigs. Now I win my dependency gradually.
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Re: What do doctors think of electronic cigarettes?

Postby Thulium » Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:10 pm

If those who don't support people who want to use electronic cigarettes to quit smoking & nicotine will stop criticizing people who do, the drama and controversy will end.
Is there any reason whatsoever to believe that smoke-free products that may contain an addictive psychostimulant but have not been approved by the FDA as a smoking cessation aid pose a greater public health risk than sugar-free products that may contain an addictive psychostimulant but have not been approved by the FDA as a weight loss aid?
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Re: What do doctors think of electronic cigarettes?

Postby greenlover » Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:57 pm

Do you REALLY think that??? :lol: :lol:
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Re: What do doctors think of electronic cigarettes?

Postby Thulium » Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:48 am

Is there any reason whatsoever to believe that smoke-free products that may contain an addictive psychostimulant but have not been approved by the FDA as a smoking cessation aid pose a greater public health risk than sugar-free products that may contain an addictive psychostimulant but have not been approved by the FDA as a weight loss aid?
Is there any reason whatsoever to believe that smoke-free products that may contain an addictive psychostimulant but have not been approved by the FDA as a smoking cessation aid pose a greater public health risk than sugar-free products that may contain an addictive psychostimulant but have not been approved by the FDA as a weight loss aid?
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Re: What do doctors think of electronic cigarettes?

Postby Inquistadora » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:32 pm

I heard about them first from my doctor. I have a long history of trying to quit. I went on the patches back in in early days when they were prescription-only and the same with the gum, so all my doctors know I want to quit. It was right after they were invented when my doctor brought the ecig to my attention, not recommending it, just letting me know a new alternative existed if I wanted to try it. I wish I had. I could have saved myself half a decade of smoking.

It must be really maddening for them to watch their smoking patients get sicker and sicker. No doubt they have a lot of different opinions person to person, but all my doctors were pragmatists: whatever works.
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Re: What do doctors think of electronic cigarettes?

Postby Procrastinator » Mon Dec 26, 2011 3:58 pm

Cil wrote:
From what I see, without meaningful studies, physician groups and academies are sitting on the fence.


Yep, you are correct in the main, but some of the more pragmatic are suggesting that these be used as a final resort if people can't stop smoking using other methods.


Plus, you know how long the academy "sat on the fence" about the dangers of smoking? I'm pretty wary of any official association or government recommendation either way.

This is a pretty good book to look at before you take what the AMA or Cancer Society have to say as gospel.

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Being slow on the uptake is one thing, but standing in the way of saving lives is quite another.

I did not read all the previous posts too closely yet. Anyone mention the tobacco harm reduction program at U. Louisville? Here's the self help Web site they put out.

http://www.smokersonly.org

About time researchers start publicizing the truth about tobacco instead of all the zero tolerance BS the government and its drug company benefactors have been putting out.
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Re: What do doctors think of electronic cigarettes?

Postby teresa1234 » Tue May 07, 2013 2:44 am

0mg e juice would be much better
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Re: What do doctors think of electronic cigarettes?

Postby WoodWard » Tue May 07, 2013 5:23 am

wow great post. I just remember that a doctor from around here where I live hates electronic cigarettes. I mean he literally tries to stop people to do that.
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