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#1 neverstopdoing

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 07:55 AM

I would like some opinions on this. I have been smoke free for about 72 hours. Yay! Things are getting better and I don't have horrible cravings for an actual cigarette much anymore. I do still have moments where I just want something. Usually it's when I think about how I used to sit on my back porch with a cup of coffee, reading my favorite book and smoking.

Because I still want this, I have had a couple of friends who have recommended that I get a vapor with no nicotine. They said if I just have it for the feel of smoking it will stop those urges.

What I would like from the amazing people on this forum is your opinion. Is that an option for someone who is quitting smoking or will it just be another step towards a relapse? As tempting as it is, I don't want to do that if it will hurt my progress. Anyone have any experience with this? Thanks for your input.
 
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#2 giveintowin

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 08:45 AM

I wouldn't do this since no-one knows if e-cigs are safe. They are a controversial topic here and in other forums for a number of reasons.

 

I personally need to break the associations of smoking and something that mimics the action of smoking is something I wouldn't do since I would find it triggering.

 

That's my personal feelings about it, however no-one knows if vaping is safe so I can't see it as a good option.


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#3 Hope2Nope

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 08:47 AM

welcome and congrats on your quit! I'd stay away from vapor. Changing the routine usually helps the cravings you describe. Don't read on your porch or don't drink coffee but something else instead until you feel comfortable. If these doesn't help, try a JAC (aka Jillar's Air Cigarette).


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 09:58 AM

Congrats on your first 3 days done :-D and I agree with Hope2Nope, change up your routines. Go read and enjoy your book elsewhere, and take a sandwich, plate of fruit or bag of sweets/candy with you.
You will soon become used to the new routines and it will become your new normal.
Keep it going,on your way to a week quit ...yay
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Posted 21 April 2017 - 10:38 AM

G'day
Why "smoke" anything?
"Smoking" something else is just admitting you have to "smoke".
You have spent three days quit. That's YOU yes you! you did that... pretty pleased... should be.. champ!
Keep walking foward, don't look back. It's a case of "doing", forget the "trying" bit. It will only try you.
I don't have to wish you luck! Ya don't need it you just need Not To Smoke.
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Posted 21 April 2017 - 11:25 AM

My opinion: recipe for relapse.

 

I think it would be akin to romancing the cigarette, and be a trigger toward wanting/having one. Change up those old habits instead, replace a cigarette with a hard candy or carrot stick instead. We want to clear all those brain pathways away from the bad habits of smoking.

 

You're doing fantastic nst with a solid 3 day quit. Keep up the good work. You can do this!


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 12:49 PM

Recipe for relapse....in my opinion.
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Posted 21 April 2017 - 12:56 PM

Don't do it. You do not need that. :)


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 01:03 PM

Recipe for relapse, imho. This is part of the habit you're trying to break. You don't need to reinforce the addiction. Work on positive diversions. Clean a drawer or window, Take a walk. Watch a cat video :). Do anything but smoke, even if you're just pretending to do that. These early days and weeks are tough for sure. The only way out is through them but things will get better and you CAN do it. :) Keep up the good work and push on!


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 01:38 PM

neverstoptrying - good job on 3 days!!

 

That feeling of something missing is a tough one, maybe that's where the rewiring the brain comes in? I'm still  struggling with sitting on the porch, I'm getting a little teary eyed just talking about it. :sad:

 

I do not think vaping is a good idea. Period.

 

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 01:44 PM

beazel- it took me about a year until I could sit on my porch as that was my smoking place. You will get there but it may take a years worth of triggers until you work through them. A one year commitment to this board is a good one to make. Just hang tough. It will come, I promise. You're already doing a great job :)


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 01:54 PM

NST for me the hardest part of this ordeal was breaking the Habit of Smoking, using a Vape E-cig or air cig on any kind of regular basis I believe you would be reinforcing your smoking habit. Now that would be a very scary place for me Smoking cool not hot, smoking non nic instead of loaded nic? seems like a sharp edge to walk and not slip off. IMO I would not.
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Posted 21 April 2017 - 02:01 PM

Neverstoptrying: I agree with the others - no vape. Pretty soon you may be able to head out to the porch and read, but for now do something else. It's been less than 2 months for me, but I finally can go out on the porch, read, have coffee, and no problems. Some people can do it quicker and some longer. Bottom line is find new things to do, not a pseudo-cig that may lead you back to the cruddy habit and addiction. You're doing great. Don't foul it up with vaping!
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Posted 21 April 2017 - 02:17 PM

Vape ?  :puke:

 

You can still go out to the porch with your coffee and read.. just don't smoke. three or four times and the trigger will go away. 

 

Enjoy !


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 02:35 PM

I changed up my routine neverstop. And I used my air cigarette. Some people don't agree but when a bad craving hit it was my go to to make the craving easier. I don't use it anymore so I don't agree with the others that think it keeps the "act" alive. I would not use a vape. Inhaling it just seems like a recipe for pneumonia to me!
Congratulations on 72 hours, you're doing really good :)
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Posted 21 April 2017 - 03:34 PM

Don't even!

 

You're a non-smoker now. You have to hit all this madness with a full head of steam and deal with it. There are no tricks. When it comes down to it. Gum, patches, lozenges and vaping; all of that junk is still not a cigarette and at the end of the day, you're just putting off the inevitable.

 

It's so hard to do, but the sooner you deal with it, the sooner you'll be free.

 

It will get better, I promise, but it's going to take a while. You're going to have to be patient, but you can do this!

 

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 03:42 PM

Asking for relapse. Even spmething called an air cigarette, in my opinion.

Forget smoking. Forget mimicking the act of smoking. The sooner that happens the easier it gets. You hang on with air cigarettes, or water cigarettes, thought cigarettes, you're not allowing the misery to end.

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 05:29 PM

Thank you, everyone!
 
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Posted 21 April 2017 - 05:38 PM

Neverstoptrying I speak from personal experience on this exact situation. I once tried what you are thinking and it wasn't even 3days on my nicotine free vape and bam.....I was back to a pack a day. Sure am glad you bounced this off the board. Hope you don't do it....retrain your brain to just enjoy the book...longterm you'll be happier.....
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Posted 22 April 2017 - 03:01 PM

It doesn't work for long anyway. Vape juice without nic is like breathing in (bad) air. There is no throat hit at all. So it isn't satisfying at all - it isn't what your brain is really craving which is nicotine. I tried it and quickly realized it was a stupid, potentially dangerous, idea. Honestly, the "air cigarette" is more effective and does not involve coating your lungs with oil. And you will not need to fake an air cigarette over time. I haven't in a very, very long time, but it was really helpful in the first several months.
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